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文章標題:一個高中少年仔的詩觀      給懷天發信  懷天的IP位置:210.58.210.7
  雖然我只是一個最近才開始嘗試創作新詩的小毛頭,但目前即將升高二的我,卻對新詩的創作也有所想法,也釵b釵h前輩的眼中,我只是個乳臭未乾的蘿蔔頭,當您們翱翔在詩壇時,我還不曉得在哪,但是在這個自由創作的年代,每個人應該都擁有發言及參與討論的權力,用年齡及輩分來否認一個創作者的能力,是不客觀且不公平的,而我也真誠的希望觀看此文的前輩,若對我提出的看法有所意見,敬請來信指教,身為晚輩的我必定會虛心參考,風格仍未定的我,會不惜以明日之我勝今日之我。
  自從胡適先生推廣白話文學運動,努力推廣及創立新詩這種文體以來,就將新詩定位為極自由的文體,基本上是沒有明確設限的文體,但為何胡適晚年說他看不懂新世代詩人所寫的詩?為何新詩無法成左煽隊帢擘s至大眾?為何過去台灣的詩壇曾爆發論戰?究竟什麼樣的新詩才是好的新詩?在接下來的文章裡,我將陳述我的看法。
何謂一首好的新詩?新詩既然沒有設限,也沒有硬性的規定,那憑什麼來評斷一首新詩的好壞?這也就是當年詩壇論戰的主因了,因為每派都各持自己的理念及觀點,切入欣賞的角度不同,所以引發了論戰,有的主張注重傳承古典,有的主張本土化,有的主張橫的移植外國詩風,有的主張詩的音樂性,有的主張意境的建構,有的主張象徵法的運用,總之是各擁一片天,卻也豐富了我們這些晚輩的視野。
  近代文學史上的巨擎胡適,他擁有深厚的文學素養是無庸置疑的,但他晚年卻說他看不懂有些詩人所作的詩,除了因為部分詩人所作的詩過度空泛,看似高深的用詞比擬,主體卻支離破碎,甚至不知道作者想要表達什麼,這對於主張要言之有物,且不無病呻吟的胡適來說,自然無法接受,實際上並非看不懂,只是不喜歡罷了,但胡適先生所不喜歡的詩,並不一定就是不好的詩,因為我相信文學是不斷在進化改變的,我堅決的認為文學走向大眾普及化是必然的,但很多新世代詩人不但沒有走出象牙塔,反而往象牙塔裡鑽,胡適先生當初倡導白話文學,就是要讓文學成為日常生活中的一部分,雖然新詩草創初期有「小腳放大」之譏,但文學的白話不也成奶F嗎?誰敢說白話散文的文學價值不如古文?所以新詩並沒有必要「守舊」,未來的詩究竟會有什麼走向?我想至少可以肯定的是,一定得回到詩的創作原點,然後再度出發,否則有些晦澀甚至流於怪誕的新詩走向,會將新詩的未來逼往絕境,然而有很多詩人,認為將新詩導向大眾化是錯誤的,因為他們始終認為這是媚世的做法,但我必須提出一個問題,寫詩是為了讓群眾看不懂,認為新詩是艱澀無趣的,然後詩人自鳴得意,而讓讀詩的人口數越來越少?這樣的真的可以讓新詩傳承延續?我質疑!就唐朝來說好了,有個名詩人每做完一首詩,就會拿給隔壁老翁欣賞,若老翁看不懂詩的意思,他便會修改甚至重寫,已至於他的詩作能夠膾炙人口,甚至流傳後世。
  不能被人們傳頌欣賞的詩,經不起現代人喜好考驗的新詩,就更別提會在未來會流傳了,若真的連胡適先生都看不懂,那要怎麼去奢想一般大眾能接受,甚至喜愛新詩?在我週遭的高中生裡,已經很少有人讀新詩了,親朋好友對新詩的創作者也有頗有歧見,認為新詩就是虛幻,令人看不懂的詩,有的新詩唸起來不通順也就算了,好像只是一串拼湊起來的字,既然看不懂,當然也就不會有人想要欣賞,沒有人欣賞的藝術,何以稱為有價值的藝術?
  事實上,短暫的爭論終究會過去,因為歷史會證明一切,台灣的新詩派流雖然不少,但只要是好的作品,未來誰會真正去在意派流?唐代詩人的風格各有不同,分為浪漫派、寫實派、田園派……等,但也沒聽說過他們有因為創作理念不同而相互征討,我們這些後代人也很少會刻意排擠唐詩的哪一派,詩只是純粹欣賞的藝術,請回歸創作的原點,回到台灣詩派分流前的新詩原點,創作新詩是為了孤芳自賞,是讓少數人覺得好的作品,還是是為了推廣至全民,讓全民都喜歡詩的文化?若只是為了讓少數專家喜歡,那日漸後繼無人的詩壇,只會越來越萎縮,甚至消失。
  我讀過很多不同前輩的新詩,其實不分派流,只要是能激起我內心共鳴的新詩,我都認為是很棒的作品,釵h詩作真的是令我愛不釋手,有的經典甚至讓我一再的咀嚼回味,有的卻不知所云,甚至我請學校的國文老師為我賞析,連老師也都看不懂,因此我覺得一首好的新詩,先決條件就是要讓人看得懂,至少要能讓讀者大概知道作者想要表達什麼,其次才講求詩的音樂性及意境,我希望我未來所能創做出來的詩,是具備音樂性,又帶有意境內涵的新詩,要讓別人看得懂,並不一定就會放棄藝術性,雖然我目前所做出來的詩,連我自己都不甚滿意,但我的未來還很長遠,我有我的理想與抱負,或釦琤堳e無法寫出動人的詩句,但至少我很努力的在寫,很努力的在學習,也著手開始磨練我的筆,感受到自己的進步與改變,那就是我寫作的動力,但我目前並不希望將自己刻意定位在哪一派,誰說鄉土詩人就不能歌誦愛情?誰規定浪漫派詩人就不能寫諷寓政治的詩?有題材就寫,有靈感就舒發,是我對自己的期部A若前輩們認為我的看法有誤,敬請指教。
作者: 懷天   時間:2002-08-28 00:00:00  來源:210.58.210.7
—回覆—       琴川的IP位置:163.20.3.11

吾因身懷天下之志,遂自號懷天......

讀了懷天的詩觀可以深刻感受到他--懷天下之志--的氣勢與才情
以一個高中的學生能有如此寬廣的視野與思慮自屬難得
以下就你〝一個高中少年仔的詩觀〞提出個人的看法,或可供參考
文中提及詩的走向--
--我想至少可以肯定的是,一定得回到詩的創作原點,然後再度出發,否則有些晦澀甚至流於怪誕的新詩走向,會將新詩的未來逼往絕境。〈此現象在六、七十年代即已發生,很多詩人因此不再寫詩了〉
--然而有很多詩人,認為將新詩導向大眾化是錯誤的,因為他們始終認為這是媚世的做法,但我必須提出一個問題,寫詩是為了讓群眾看不懂,認為新詩是艱澀無趣的,然後詩人自鳴得意,而讓讀詩的人口數越來越少?這樣的真的可以讓新詩傳承延續?我質疑!就唐朝來說好了,有個名詩人每做完一首詩,就會拿給隔壁老翁欣賞,若老翁看不懂詩的意思,他便會修改甚至重寫,已至於他的詩作能夠膾炙人口,甚至流傳後世。〈我想寫詩首在忠於自己,久之因而建立起個人的風格,問題是有些人往往忘了向內觀省自己,而一味的隨波逐流,被時尚、形式、文字牽著走,導致文勝於質,甚至對於表達的內容恐怕自己都尚未釐清;或者對於所謂的詩、對於自己仍未有清楚的認知。一樣米養百樣人,在詩的國度裡,百家爭鳴也是自然的事,重點在於詩人如何看待詩、看待自己〉
我讀過很多不同前輩的新詩,其實不分派流,只要是能激起我內心共鳴的新詩,我都認為是很棒的作品
〈激起讀者內心的共鳴,你講到重點了〉
因此我覺得一首好的新詩,先決條件就是要讓人看得懂,至少要能讓讀者大概知道作者想要表達什麼,其次才講求詩的音樂性及意境,我希望我未來所能創做出來的詩,是具備音樂性,又帶有意境內涵的新詩,要讓別人看得懂,並不一定就會放棄藝術性,
〈所有的條件應融入於創作之爐,再由作者提煉。但是必須認清一事實,我們無法要求每一個讀者都能引起共鳴,除非你刻意以此為你風格的訴求。凡事皆有得失、正反兩面。〉
--我目前並不希望將自己刻意定位在哪一派,誰說鄉土詩人就不能歌誦愛情?誰規定浪漫派詩人就不能寫諷寓政治的詩?有題材就寫,有靈感就舒發,是我對自己的期部A若前輩們認為我的看法有誤,敬請指教。
〈沒有詩人一開始就把自己定位在哪一派,而最後會被歸為哪一派也是很〝自然〞的。有題材就寫,有靈感就舒發,用你認為最能表達完足的方式就對了〉

作者:琴川   日期:2002-09-04 00:00:00 來源:163.20.3.11

—回覆—   懷天的首頁  給懷天發信  懷天的IP位置:210.58.210.64

一直忘記要謝謝前輩的指教,真是歹勢^^a

作者:懷天   日期:2003-01-05 00:00:00 來源:210.58.210.64


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